Perhaps we should be asking

What shape is the earth IN?

There is a big resurgence of the PREACHING of THE FLAT EARTH DOCTRINE.

Does it really make any difference?


It makes no difference at all whether the earth is flat or a globe, or even pear shaped.

The reality is that we humans live in mortal bodies on this piece of dirt called ‘Earth’.

And there is no person, group,  or world power that can change that reality….


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Mankind’s mortal home is called ‘Earth’ (and every language under heaven has its own word for ‘earth’, or has imported this word into their language.

The word ‘earth’ is an English word, having its base in the old English and Germanic languages; such as “eor(th)e” – Eng. or “erde” – Ger.  These words were generally used by the commoners to describe the ground they lived on…long before men dreamed of flying as birds.

“Earth is the only planet whose English name does not derive from Greek/Roman mythology. The name derives from Old English and Germanic. There are, of course, many other names for our planet in other languages.”                                   


In the Hebrew Bible in the first book of the Pentateuch we read…

“And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be collected to one place, and let the dry land appear. And it was so.  And God called the dry land, Earth. And He called the collection of the waters, Seas. And God saw that it was good.”  Genesis 1:9,10.

It was God who established the very name of this planet we live on. “And God called the dry land, Earth”                    

7121 [e] way-yiq-rā וַיִּקְרָ֨א And called Verb
430 [e] ’ĕ-lō-hîm אֱלֹהִ֤ים ׀ God Noun
3004 [e] lay-yab-bā-šāh לַיַּבָּשָׁה֙ the dry Noun
776 [e] ’e-reṣ, אֶ֔רֶץ [land] earth Noun

(source – http://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-10.htm)

The Hebrew for ‘earth’ is ere(t)s.  The English word is very close.  It can be used to describe the local ground we walk on, or the land of the living, or the habitable world.

We are born, and we begin to breathe the air – atmosphere of earth.  We rest.  We eat.  We drink.  We study and we work.  We plan.  We fail, we succeed.  We  sin against our Creator, who is a Holy Almighty God, and is both Just and Merciful.  Our bodies die and they are turned  to the dust from which we came.

But our  soul, our spirit returns to God who gave it and we stand before Him and give an account of ourselves concerning the Lord Jesus Christ and whether we have surrendered to Him in this mortal life.

This all happens whether we live on a flat earth or a globe.

As in ancient times, the earth is once again violently corrupted by its inhabitants.

We read in Genesis 9 that after that cataclysmic worldwide Flood, God made a lasting promise never to flood the earth again with water in order to destroy every living thing as He had done.

“And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.
And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
I do set my (rain) bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the (rain) bow shall be seen in the cloud:
And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
And the (rain) bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.”  Genesis 9:8-17.

So whether the earth is flat or not, the whole earth was under a deluge of water, both from subterranean water reserves and from the watery canopy high above the earth.  This sudden and catastrophic worldwide Flood was the means that produced fossils, and carved out much of the earth’s geological and topographical features that we see today.

God said that He would give evidence of this  promise (above) by placing His bow – that beautifully coloured thing we call a rainbow – in the sky.   Men of science can explain what the rainbow is but they cannot explain how or why it came to be.

And of course, if men foolishly deny the existence of God, they have no truthful explanation for why or how anything came into being, including the ‘rainbow’.

The rainbow can be seen when the light of the sun hits the droplets of water as they fall in the atmosphere, but only at precise angles.  But the fact is that the rainbow is not an arch – which is what we commonly see, but a circle.

“Sunlight strikes the droplet – SMACK – and the colored light we discussed earlier bounces off at an angle of 40-42 degrees in every possible direction. Given that, how do you see the colors? Only the beams that shine directly at you will reveal their colors; in other words, you will see colored light only from those water droplets that are at the proper angle from both you and the sun. The only shape that will allow the light beams to shine on you at that precise angle is an arc or a circle with you at the center!” source – https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/rainbows-always-curved.html

Once I was walking in the counrty at night with my umbrella; it was raining.  As a car approached me I saw a rainbow as a perfect circle.  I have even seen the same circle shape from an airplane when flying to and from Indonesia. 

You can even see a fainter smaller rainbow around the light from the moon and usually  when there will be some form of precipitation overnight.

The rainbow is no accident. 

It did not just happen over millions of years.

Man did not invent the rainbow.

It is not an optical illusion or a figment of the imagination.

It was designed and produced, and its process is continually repeated, by Almighty God, every time sunlight hits droplets of water.

The Hebrew word for the rain ‘ bow’ in Genesis 9 is qesheth, and is the same word used for the ancient weapon ‘bow’.

Whether you have or will accept the recorded facts in Scripture – the Holy Bible, the rainbow is God’s promise to you that the earth (whether it is flat or a spherical globe), will never again be judged by God by a cataclysmic Worldwide Flood.  It happened once.  It cannot – never will happen again.

Many local floods have occured since then and we see such activity increasing in this 21st Century.  But these are not worldwide floods.

The earth is the property of the Lord God Almighty, regardless of its shape; round, flat,  square or triangle, or pearshaped.  It makes no difference what the shape of the earth is.  It is what it is and God made it so.


But let us suppose the earth is flat like a huge ‘flat’ round table.

If we can see the full curved circumference of a dinner plate just a few feet away, we could see a larger flat circle, at a much higher altitude, and  so on. It would be possible if the height was right, to see the circumference of a large circle, the edge of it, and it would appear as a circle not as a flat line.

God who made earth (and He knows what shape it is) – and its inhabitants will one day in the near future judge the inhabitants of the earth for all their abominable practices and grievous wickednesses worked in the wilfull pride of heart and arrogant spirit.

God will judge mankind on a set day in time by the Man He has raised from the dead, Jesus Christ. – Are you ready for that Judgment day?

This old earth is passing away – whether it is flat or a globe, triangle, square.  It makes no difference, it is passing away.

Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him,
because all that which is in the world: the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
And the world is passing away, and its lust. But the one doing the will of God abides forever.
Little children, it is a last hour, and as you heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have risen up, from which you know that it is a last hour.  1 John 15:18

The world is passing away my friends.  It is already in the process of passing away. Nothing in this created physical universe remains in its pristine state.  Vehicles, buildings, toys, computers, whatever a thing may be, it is degrading.  The earth, whether it is flat or a globe is degrading naturally by the elements, even the coastlines of countries are being eroded by wind and the constant movement of the waves of the sea.

The seas are being polluted, as is the air we breath, as are our waterways, and even the very earth we gather food from.  It is all perishing.

John the apostle tells us that even the lust of the world, that craving man has in his heart for perfection in this world even his own perfection; the lust of his eyes, ever seeing but never being satisified; and the lusts of his flesh, ever wanting to possess and maybe getting but never being satisfied – all these things are also in the process of passing away.  see 1 John 2:16

They will not last.  They are not eternal attributes, they are not self existing, but are  relegated to the temporal scene of which everything is, in the end, under the sovereign control of Almighty God who created it all from nothing

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing that these things are thus all to be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy living and godliness,
looking for and earnestly desiring the coming of the day of God, by reason of which the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
But, according to his promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for these things, give diligence that ye may be found in peace, without spot and blameless in his sight.   2 Peter 3:10-14.

Here God having spoken in ages past and who still speaks, is warning us of the coming conflagration – a world wide , yes, a cosmic fire which will destroy even the very fabric and constitution of the elemental components of all things physical.  This will not be by the actions of men with their nuclear or hydrogen  weapons.  God will not allow mankind to blow himself or his earth to smithereens.

Do not fear what man thinks he can do.

Fear God who is able to cast both soul and body into Hell.

And when all is said and done, God will reveal new heavens and a new earth in which dwells rightouesness.  I do not believe that God will as it were put a new coat of paint on this earth, as to make it look all spic and span – like we do with an old dilapidated house.  I believe God has greater plans that that, which the Scriptures speak about. 

God is not so much in the business of patching up, of doing a makeover, a renovation, but of replacing what is old with what will be new and better in every respect.  He says –

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
Revelation 21:1-5

That is what God does with the sinner who comes to Him in true repentance and brokenness of heart and spirit, under his heavy load of sin, guilt and shame, and condemnation.  God takes such a one and gives them a brand new nature, which is not of this world, brand new hopes, and a brand new start.  The old is done away through the blood of Jesus Christ God’s Perfect and obedient Son, and the new is come through Him.

God patiently waits for you to turn to Him in full surrender of all your life, your past and future and your present.  You cannot fix these things without Him.  You’ve been trying for years already and your conscience tells you, that you have failed to save yourself.  We cannot even lift ourselves up by our shoelaces, or by our ears. 

How on earth – whether it is flat or a globe, then can we suppose to save our soul from our internal feuds, fears, and fascades, its shame and charade, its guilt and its grotesqueness.

Give over to Jesus.

Obey His gospel and live.

The final resting place for all those who do not obey the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST,  is the same place where Lucifer, Satan, the devil, the Dragon, The Serpent, the Deceiver will be  – the Lake of Fire which burns endlessly and ferociously.

Repent all peoples of the earth, and hide yourselves in Jesus Christ who alone can save you from the coming wrath of the Most Holy and Righteous Almighty God who, while willing to forgive you and wash away all your sins – will not suffer rebellion against Him and His Son Jesus Christ to go on unchecked and unpurged endlessly.  Kiss the Son lest He be angry.  Take His hand and kiss it in hmility and surrender.

Even a ruling tyrant of dictator knows that the way to secure his govenrnment is to remove all transgression against his will.  And that is what the world will see very soon.  A one world dictator under the direct personal control of that Devil Lucifer who will seek to remove every resistance and transgression against his diabolical reign.  But it will not last.

This is the Man of Sin who was to come.  The final Antichrist – the grand daddy of them all.

Do not fear him who can kill the body, but after that has no more power over you.  Fear Him rather who after killing your body has all power to cast both your body and soul – the real you, into Hell.  Fear Him.


God tells Abram (Abraham)

“And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and number the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.” Genesis 15:5

If you are able to number them!!

God knows their total number but as far as man is concerned it may as well be an ‘infinite’ number.

God also tell Jeremiah…

“As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.” Jeremiah 33:22

The host of the heaven cannot be numbered.

Though the stars and all other such objects are a finite number, they cannot be numbered by mankind.

Though the sands of the seashore and under the sea are a finite number they cannot in reality be numbered by mankind.

Man will try.

But his trying will be fruitless.

Though he lived ten million years, he will never know the number of grains of sand, nor the number of the stars.  God who made them all will see to that.

God says of the nations of men, they are but as a drop in a bucket, and are counted as the dust on a set of scales.

“Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.” Isaiah 40:15.

 If you put one drop of water in an empty bucket, will you see the droplet of water?

Oh man!

Cease to be filled with vanity and empty ambition

that will produce nothing of lasting value.

God has set limits on what you can do.

You who seek to be as gods, cease from your vain pursuits.

You are but mere men (or women),

and like all of us we will stand before our Creator

and give an account of ourselves,

either with shame and terror

or honour and peace.

Only Jesus Christ can give you that honour and peace you so vainly pursue elsewhere.  And we ALL – including myself, have gone astray, doing our own thing and making a mess along the way.

“There is no peace to the wicked, says the Lord.” Isaiah 48:22.

So what about the


Let God be true and every man a liar says Paul…Romans 3:4

If the Flat Earth proposal is indeed true:

then surely man will be able to number the stars in the heavens under a flat earth physical dome.

God says that the host of heaven (the physical realm), and the sands of the sea (the physical realm) cannot be numbered by mankind.

This impossibility is repeated also in Jeremiah 31:35-37.

also Hebrews 11:12…

Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead,

so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore

INUMERABLE (to mankind).

Flat earth, spherical earth, square earth?

If the flat earth doctrine is true then perhaps it is not round after all but square…owing to the four corners of the earth that the Bible speaks about.

But the Bible does not at all speak about a “flat earth”.

Those who promote the FE idea imply or state that the photos from space, of the earth, taken by NASA etc are manufactured.  Who knows whether they are or not.

They say that the mathematics proposing the globe idea are incorrect.

They postulate that the horizon goes on and has no downward curve, but actually has an upward curve at its rim (one theory proposes this).

They say that the flat earth can be ‘seen’ in their high altitude balloon shots.

They say that the horizon of the earth is seen as a flat line across the top of the screen shot.

Let God be true and every man a liar.

If NASA’s images of the earth are photoshopped who can be sure about the validity of the videos taken for the FE’s

While the Flat earth theory raises some interesting points- and not all FE’s agree on every point – it is a moving hypothesis, it also raises some questions which cannot be answered by any man.

God says not once but twice, that the hosts of heaven – the physical heaven cannot be numbered.

The Biblical phrase “Stretcheth out the heavens” is a present continuous phrase…implying a continuous  action …goes on stretching out.  If this is so then the so-called-dome over the earth is also still being stretched out by God.

The Biblical phrase “Whosoever believeth” is a present continuous phrase…and implies a continuous believing.

God has spoken twice

man cannot number the host of the physical heaven

The circle of the earth spoken of in Isaiah 40:22 can also be translated circuit or circumference.  This does not rule out a three dimensional circle.  Neither does it prove a one or two dimensional circle as the only option.

Someone on a youtube video blog asked – Is the sun and moon flat?  Good question.

If the earth is flat and all of the heaven and the earth is under  a dome, then the little rhyme that says twinkle twinkle little star is far more correct that we give it credit for.  “LITTLE” star.  All the stars would be little and have no real heat, or no real capacity for anything else but to twinkle upon earth a few miles above it.  And it stands to reason that these little stars would appear much bigger near the edge of a flat earth where the “dome” is very close to the earth like a curved ceiling, than at the centre.

The word ‘atmosphere’ has the suffix sphere.  The word atmosphere means ‘vapour’ and ‘globe’ or ball and comes from the Latin about the 17th C and thus earlier from the Greek.

“In the sixth century BC, the Greek philosopher Pythagoras recognised the sphericity of the Earth and the dominance of latitude in explaining climate variation (Sanderson 1999). Two centuries later Aristotle expanded on Pythagoras’s foundation and introduced five climate zones, ranging from tropical to northern frigid.” http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Atmospheric.htm

2. It is important to note that an incredibly dubious bit of revisionist history occurred in the 1800s that resulted in many people today, including Christians, falling into the belief that the ancients and early church fathers adhered to a flat earth. This was an unfortunately effective lie perpetrated by several unscrupulous men in the battle of humanism over the Bible. This isn’t an indictment of modern critics, as I too was taught that for centuries people believed the earth was flat, recalling stories such as those poor ship’s crewmen who were worried about sailing over the corner of the earth. The dishonest nature of this revisionism is slowly being dispelled. For more information I recommend Jeffrey Burton Russell’s book Inventing the Flat Earth: Columbus & Modern Historians. Dr. Danny R Faulkner also has a fine article regarding this subject in Creation Matters, Vol 2, Number 6.http://bibleevidences.com/scientif.htm

Be ready, for in an hour you think not the Son of Man (Jesus Christ) comes.

Then Peter said unto them,


and be baptized every one of you

in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you,

and to your children,

and to all that are afar off,

even as many as the Lord our God shall call.  

Acts 2:38. 39

What shape is the Earth?

What shape are you in before Your Creator and your Judge – Jesus Christ?